Wow, just wow. These are the goldilocks of shorts, just right . I’m a little on the overweight/athletic side. 5’11” 205 lbs and Large fits like a tailored suit, love the 7” inseam, just enough leg, not baggie on the butt but not too tight. Zipper pockets and media pocket are great for organization if you’re big on edc items like me, and somehow even with a lot of stuff everything is easy access and doesn’t make the shorts stick out or look too lumpy. The material is the perfect blend of soft comfort and moisture wicking while appearing super durable which is why I chose these over lulu shorts. You can get away with these for casual wear, the material is matte like a casual short. I’m hooked and will definitely be buying more from Rhone . This is one of those situations where you get what you pay for, worth the price!